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21st Oct 2024

The Wolverine (Logan’s Live Action Anime Adventure)

Join us for this latest installment of Cape or Cap, where we dive deep into The Wolverine!

This week, our "Ryan & Hugh Road Trip" hits Japan as we explore The Wolverine—a film that plunges Logan into a world of ninjas, Yakuza, and immortality. We follow our clawed hero as he faces old demons, new enemies, and questions of his own humanity, all while grappling with his actions at the end of X-Men: Last Stand. From a perilous train battle to a showdown with a deadly Silver Samurai, we’ll break down the plot, dissect the characters, and answer your burning questions:

  • Is this good storytelling?
  • How does it compare to other films, comics, and larger narratives?
  • What was happening behind the scenes during the creation of this production and after its release?
  • And as always, is this a "cape" or a "cap"?

01:15:48 Cape or Cap Verdict

Referenced Materials:

  • Wolverine (1982) #1-4 by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller

Hosts: Chamar Griffith and Andrew Tejada

Producers: Chamar Griffith and Andrew Tejada

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I was like, okay, you know being chivalrous, but he

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didn't have to go and stand in the rain all night, though.

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Yeah, like, he's in a 90s r&b. The Wolverine loves you.

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Hi, I'm chamar Griffith and I'm Andrew Tejada. We're going

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through superhero productions to let you know if they're still

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fun or the hype around it was dumb on Cape or cap, a Black

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Nerd superhero podcast. You

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Music. Welcome to this week's installment of Cape or cap, a

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Black Nerd superhero podcast. My name is Chamar Griffith,

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codename ComicChams and I am Andrew Tejada, codename Arete.

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Andrew and I have known each other since 1996 that was the

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year the 300x bullet train recorded a Japanese national

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speed record of 275 miles per hour. For comparison, the

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average subway train moves at 55 miles per hour. And if you don't

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live in New York City, I'm sorry I don't have a better

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comparison. I was gonna say that's a lie to New York City,

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because I feel like only at certain stops does it move at 55

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miles per hour. There's a delay. Oh, yeah, no, that's, that's the

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top, that's the top, that's where it moves out. Like, that's

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the top speed of an average frame. But like, normally it's

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going like 15, and this thing is just pulling 275 in 1996 like,

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Damn, it's fast. Uh, it kind of makes sense now, given this

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movie, um, by which I mean the the writers and the directors

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are a part of it. This is going to be, this is I finally have,

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like, a almost 1996 uh, because today's movie, we are talking

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about the Wolverine, that is right. We are continuing on with

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our Ryan and Hugh road trip, um, where we are just covering a

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bunch of the movies that may have just been forgotten about,

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featuring Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, either together or

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apart in their separate roles that will culminate into this. I

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think it's like still the number one movie right now of Deadpool

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and Wolverine. I think they were dethroned by alien, alien

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Romulus, domestically, at least. Okay, the aliens have taken

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over, all right. Well, they had a great run. Speaking of run, we

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have this movie, The Wolverine, with a run time of 127 minutes.

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This 2013 PG, 13 film. So there is one scene in particular where

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they use that. They use their allotment quite well, if I would

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say so. This film serves as the sequel spin off of X Men last

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stand, while somehow being the direct sequel to X Men origins,

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Wolverine, sure, sure. Okay, technically, anything can be a

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sequel to X Men origins, Wolverine, right. Yeah, like,

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literally Clifford big, like, big, extraordinary journey could

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be a sequel to X Men or Wolverine. Literally, everybody

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was called forth in that movie. All right, so this Wolverine was

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directed by James Mangold. This was his first time doing a

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Wolverine movie. Um, you also know him as a director behind

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Logan, Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny, Ford versus

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Ferrari, circling back to that 200 mile per hour speed and

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whatnot. Girl Interrupted, and I just thought this was hilarious,

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he's also soon to be the director, according to IMDb. So

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it could be wrong, but he's soon to be the director of a movie

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called Crenshaw, which would be about a boy whose family falls

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on hard times until he finds an imaginary friend a giant cat

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named Crenshaw. I did not think we were going with that. You

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okay, I sure. All right, yeah. I was like, I I mean, I've seen

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Logan, and I do not know how he's gonna make anything that

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might feature Kendrick Lamar, but that's besides the point.

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We're gonna drop right into our writers of today. We got Scott

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Frank, famous for his work on the Netflix series, Queen's

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gambit. This is just one particular gripe I have about

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this. If you download Queen's Gambit, the game you were

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hoodwinked, that is just chess. I. Uh, he's teamed up with Mark

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bromback, um, who wrote the recent plan the apes movie

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series, uh, the Total Recall remake, Race to Witch Mountain.

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Live Free or Die Hard and help with the rewrites for Logan, 50

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Shades of Gray, and Tom Cruise is the mummy. There is just no

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predicting what that person will do next. That is an incredible

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resume. Just all around. Well done, getting everywhere. I

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thought the same thing. I was just like, wow, this, this is,

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this is really impressive, like, even just writing for Tom

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Cruise, is the mummy was? He was something, um, so in total,

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though, we are just looking at this movie, this movie currently

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has a 71% on Rotten Tomatoes of the 69% score from the

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audiences. So I guess it's fair to say that it was received

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pretty okay across the board, across critics and fans. Now

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into our cast list. We got returning as the Wolverine. We

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got Hugh Jackman Tao akamoto plays the role of Mariko, a role

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that she will hold right before playing mercy graves in DC EU's

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Batman versus Superman Dawn of Justice. Yeah, I think she

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probably liked Mariko better. You'll recognize this man from

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the 2009 film push that starred Chris Evans um, later on you'll

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see this man also in Zoolander two, as we have Hal yamanushi As

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Mr. YASHIDA. Okay, that's a interesting resume. Uh, this

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next actor will make his leap from government official in our

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film today to shredder in the Michael Bay produced TM and T

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movie as he had Brian T as noburu, yep. Oh, and prior to

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all this, he also was DK and Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift.

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That's what I'm talking about. Now. I'm invested team in the

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teaming up. We got split Lana coda, chenkova and William Lee

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as Dr green and Harada respectively. Um haunting,

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Logan's dreams are fan Kane dancing, who's reprising her

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role as Gene gray acting in the role of Shingen. We have a man

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who is currently a lead actor, Emily Emmy nominee and Shogun,

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the foster brother of Lee and rush hour. Three appearances

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across Avengers end game bullet train told you it was gonna come

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back and John Wick four, we have hiruki Sanada, who is once

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again, Shingen YASHIDA, a legend, a legend cannot wait for

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Mortal Kombat two as well. All this other stuff is great, but

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I'm sorry, that's what I'm most excited to see him in this No,

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he was great in Mortal Kombat there, Scorpion was great. I

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love that film. And finally, hi Yukio, as Deadpool will say,

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because we now have Rila Fukushima, who's playing this

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character, a face we will remember in the Arrowverse as

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Katana. Yeah, this, she had a very specific niche for a while

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there. Um, but I guess her, her Yu Gi Oh, is very much more

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fleshed out the Deadpool. No shade to the actress. It just,

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that's just the way the role is written. I'm sorry, yes. And of

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course, because we have a katana reference, we have to say at

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some point, this is Katana. She does have Logan's back. Oh yeah,

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we'll get to that red at the end. I have something for that.

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All right, with that, let's be the best there is at what we do,

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even if what we do isn't nice, and start our review of the

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Wolverine in true Wolverine movie fashion. The first scene

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is absolutely bonkers, and also one of the greatest intros

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you've ever seen, because that's what these movies are really

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good at doing. Because the atomic bomb is coming. It is

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World War Two. The atomic bomb is on the way, so bad that even

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the soldiers in Japan are releasing POWs and just giving

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them a chance to run. And as the chaos is going around.

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Everyone's running, everyone's trying to get to safety. We see

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Wolverine is stuck in a well, and he's using his bone claws to

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try to climb up, because presumably he was captured at

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some point in the middle of the war, and he he's trying to get

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out of this well before the bomb comes, there is a soldier named

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YASHIDA who feels bad and tries to save Logan from the well, but

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upon reaching them, reaching Logan, Logan's like, Dude, we're

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already, we're we're already done for we might, I might as

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well just chill in here. So with that, YASHIDA. A leaves Logan to

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his own devices and prepares to create to commit sepaku Instead

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of face the might of the atomic bomb.

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Well, he does it. He sees his fellow soldiers perform

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the act. But in this moment, he has some hesitation as he tries

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to turn around and run away, but he's immediately caught by

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Wolverine, who makes it out. He, by some miracle, I don't know

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what it was, he makes it out this one time and tells YASHIDA

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to run with them as the two of them head back into the

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underground well, that he was in, they feel like this is

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probably the best way to escape the blast, but again, it's a

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nuclear bomb, and unfortunately, they're unable to cover the well

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in time. So Wolverine is able to take some random piece of metal,

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I'm hoping it's led, and cover YASHIDA with it. Unfortunately,

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YASHIDA does experience some slight burns on his face, unsure

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if it's because the metal is being pressed too hard on his

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face and causes it to heat up, or is it the actual radiation,

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but Wolverine takes on the full brunt of the entire bombing, and

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it's enough that by the time everything passes, everything

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seems to have calmed down, at least in terms of of, well,

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explosion standards, but we know the actual effect, the long term

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effects of nuclear bombing. YASHIDA looks up and he sees

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this like burnt to a crisp Wolverine, like skin is peeling

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off. There's like he looks like he's just straight magma, but

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right before his eyes, he's also seeing Wolverine just

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regenerate. And it's a crazy scene, especially to open to,

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because it's like when you know we have a sense of what

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Wolverine's healing abilities are. But this is on a whole new

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level. And after all this happens, we jump over to, I'm

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assuming it's Canada only both, well, not quite yet, because

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before we jump to Canada, we get what you know, what also is a

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tradition for Wolverine movies, which, up to this point, which

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is ruining an awesome opening, by having him wake up to Jean

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gray. He's in bed with Jean Gray. I know, because these

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scenes happen so often. You forget when. But they start the

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movie with Logan waking up to Jean gray. And this is post X

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Men, The Last Stand, where, at the end of that movie, if you

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don't remember, Jean Gray was, uh, consumed by her dark

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alternate personality, and she asked for Logan to kill her, so

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he has a nightmare that he promises not to hurt anyone, but

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he wakes up, and he steps up in bed and realizes that he has

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already stabbed gene, so he sends up screaming, no, Gene,

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no. And then he wakes up in the forest of probably Canada. Yeah,

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he's just, like, hanging on a Wolverine. Has the most

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precarious positions to sleep in, like, I feel like, in X Men

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origins, he was just, like, on a random rock sculpture thing at

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the very top. And it was like, I don't know how he built the

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house. Now, he's like, camping on the side. He just, I mean,

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right, granted, he can't die, but at the same time, it's just

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like, Dude, there's, there's like a four seasons, or at

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least, like a Motel Six probably up the block. Anyway, he wakes

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up. We see now that it is definitely once again, was

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mentioned after the events of X Men last stand. Wolverine has

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grown all of his hair. He's got a full on beard, um, he's

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walking around a bit disheveled. And when he's there, he decides

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to head into town, and we see that he goes into a like a

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hardware store. And while he's there, there's a group of guys,

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a bunch of hunters, who are just like, I don't know. They're

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clearly just like, they're joking around, little worried

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about them being drunk, but they're also buying weapons and

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shooting them out in the streets. So it's just like, I

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don't understand how no one decided to, like, let me not

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serve this person. And Logan, he hears about this plan of them

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trying to tackle this bear, a bear that he actually saw a

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little earlier as he was heading into town, which I gotta say, is

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probably the most jacked bear I've ever seen in my life, the

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most jacked character right there, right off the bat. And

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the bear is just doing his own thing. But when Wolverine heads

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back, he does see that the bear was harmed. He hears some

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screams from people. He hears the screams of the bear. So when

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he goes to investigate, he finds the bear on the ground. There

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are a bunch of arrows in this body, and he decides that the

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best thing for him to do, because it does seem like the

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bear had been poisoned, was something. On the arrows is to

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just put it out of his misery. And this is where he pulls out

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one of the arrows and notes that it is covered in poison. So he

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goes into town, and he is offers to buy the man a drink at a bar.

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The man's telling this story about, oh man, I just barely

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escaped with my life. And overin stabs the man with the arrow

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saying, like, oh well, you know it's a cowardly to use poison on

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theirs. And if, if it's not poison, then you should be fine

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with this arrow, right? And once the man hits him, once Wolverine

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is fully prepared to kill this hunter in the middle of the bar,

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just being like, sorry, Gene just lost it to kill one guy who

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was gonna die anywhere from that poison, probably, um, but before

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he can kill anyone, Yukio arrives. She's been watching him

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for a while, and she says, Look, don't even worry about them.

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They're gonna die anyway. And after, after quickly dispatching

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the hunters with her considerable swords and fighting

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skills, she reveals that she came all the way here to find

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Logan so he can get another sharp thing, because, you know,

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he has claws. But isn't it cool if he had a sword, that's that's

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all she's here for. While he is in this car with her, uh, she

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shares that the person that hired her has been willing to

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meet with Logan, and he showed she shows him a sword, as well

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as a file that basically has all the details of his life, even

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back to when he had his short hair that he, for some reason,

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kept styling in a way where he was two pokes on the side of his

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head. That was a choice that was made because the mask in the

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suit wasn't ideal for Live Action X Men. This wasn't

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obvious enough, I guess. I don't know. So he's reluctant to go,

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and Yukio is pleading, telling him that, like, you know, it's

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just really one thing this meeting could offer you, the

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piece that you're looking for, because it will help complete a

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task of yours. The task is to assume that, mainly, like, he

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just wants to die, but so he decides, yeah, he'll go, but

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he'll only go for one day. And I was like, that's basically the

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entire flight over. But I digress, because while they're

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on the plane, Logan does share a little bit of a fear of flying,

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which I would assume is definitely connected to the

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mountains that the Blackbird was attacked and he was on the

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plane. But more importantly, Logan starts asking Yukio is

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like, Hey, how did you know that those guys were going to die?

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She just automatically assumes it to be in like, you know,

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their gun toting dummies. So this is most likely somebody was

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going to die in that group sooner rather than later. But he

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said, No, you really picked up on the fact that they were going

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to die all together in the same car three weeks from now. Like,

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that's not just gun toting dummies. So there's a hint there

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of her possibly having some kind of mutant ability, but we don't

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go further into that. It's just now just assumed by the viewer

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and by Wolverine that she can this is her skill. This is her

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mutant ability. Because as soon as the plane lands, we head on

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over to the Ishida compound is filled with armed guards.

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Wolverine's asking, what's going on? Why are there so many people

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with guns in an old man's place? And before he can even get a

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full answer, he's immediately, like, harassed by all these

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armed soldiers and gunmen. And he's then greeted by Shingen.

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Who is she, the son who is very upset with the presence of

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Wolverine here today. Yeah, we also he is introduced as a kind

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of swordsman, because we see him doing some kendo. And yeah, he's

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really just not for Wolverine. But before we really get to see

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shingon's deal, we're introduced to another character, Mariko,

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who is yeshida's granddaughter that has all these that she's

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just very proper. She seems to have a close relationship with

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Yukio and is mourning her grandfather's passing. And the

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reason he has all this guards is because YASHIDA is a tech God in

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the country, so he is, apparently like he he's in every

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tech industry. So he has unlimited money, and after

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Wolverine gets a much needed shower, we he finally reunites

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with his friend Yoshida, who is now old. He has the best bed in

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the world, that bed that kind of like, yes, adjusts to where

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you're sleeping and supports you perfectly. Is that what money

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can buy? Because on

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every point. Of his body. It's not just like a flat surface.

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It's like, oh, my arm's feeling a little tired right now. Let me

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get the support here from the third quadrant on the upper left

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region. Yeah. It's, oh God, come on. Somebody in tech make this

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happen. Not Elon, somebody else. And it's here where she says,

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hey, look, I'm dying, um, but I can make you mortal and help

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myself out. And basically he says, um, I can. He hints that

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he can remove Logan's healing factor, give it to himself. So

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it's like a but everybody wins. Yoshida gets to live longer, and

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Logan can grow old and die, except because I am on too many

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parts of the internet. It turns out that if, if Logan's healing

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factor was removed, the adamantium and the skeleton,

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would absolutely kill him almost instantly. Um, because the only

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thing keeping him alive from the adamantium poisoning is his

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healing factor. And another fun fact, and Logan, he's probably

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dying because they poisoned all the food to to kill mutants. So

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his healing factor weakened. That's That's why his healing

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factor couldn't keep up with the adamantium anymore. So all that

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to say, because Rashida didn't do his homework, Logan would

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definitely die without his healing factor. But in any case,

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it's like a double edged claw Exactly. Maybe Logan knew this

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because he rejects the offer and immediately walks into another

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movie, I guess, with Mariko, this next Mariko incident. So,

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yeah, so he decides to go and just like, do his own thing. Um,

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well, basically, what he ends up seeing is that Mariko and

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Shingen are having a very stern conversation. They're basically

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arguing here in the compound, and it results in shinkin

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slapping his daughter, um, you know, it's such a surprising

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scene, because it's not Logan doesn't know anything about this

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family, and neither do we. So it's just like we don't know

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what's happening here, and she immediately starts running

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towards a cliff to end her life. But Logan's able to catch her in

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time, which made me question, why was this place designed to

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not have railings near the cliffs if you're very high up?

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It does not make any sense. So he's like telling her that,

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like, Hey, you don't want to do that. She decides to retire for

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the night, as does Logan in separate places. This is when

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Logan and Yukio talk a little bit about why did Mariko decide

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to, like, the best course of action was to just run and jump

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off. But Yukio just said, tells her about tells him about her

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past and how she was found, how she grew up with Yukio. And as

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you mentioned, there are many, many sequences in West gene is

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just going to pop up with Logan's dreams. And at this

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point, it does seem like they're about to play a game with Udo,

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wink, wink, but he it turns out that the person that is supposed

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to be gene in his dream is actually Dr Green, who shoots

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off this like random mist down his mouth, and she she

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immediately jumps off of him. Logan, because he's thinking

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it's a dream. Doesn't really know what's going on, but when

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he wakes up, he sees everybody running around. There are people

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crying, and he learns that Yoshida has passed. So now we

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jump into the funeral, where it's basically treated as a full

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on press conference. There are reporters, there's the whole

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family, there are armed guards, the whole nine yards, and as

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they're walking through, Logan is trying to get more details.

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He sees Dr green, and it's just like, I think that's the woman I

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was trying to play Uno with, but I'm not too sure. But more

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importantly, there's a man in black who's perched on the

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rooftop just watching as the whole funeral procession is

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going on. And this is someone that we just have to think about

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later, because more importantly, we end up meeting mariko's

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fiance, norberomori. Yes, so Wolverine meets mariko's fiance,

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which is really good for Logan, because he's only into married

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woman. Don't at me, look at all the film series and tell me I'm

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wrong. So damn, this man's got a thing, right? And I think

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specifically, post amnesia, he became obsessed with married

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women. I don't know what that's about, but, I mean, we're like,

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listen, they got they don't have to worry about commitment.

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Already committed. And again, if anyone thinks I'm joking, what's

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the first scene of Days of Future Past when it goes back in

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the past? Is he not sleep? Thing with a mob boss who's already

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like, woman who's already married, like, yeah, he has a

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type. So at the funeral there we do see some friction with this

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new nuburo character. We see friction between Wolverine and

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again, Shingen Schengen is saying his dad was always

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obsessed with Logan. I mean, it would be nice to see, to have

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seen some of that, like, you know, posters of Logan on the

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wall, or, like, there's a scene with the three of them where

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he's, like, ignoring his son for Logan. But we don't really, we

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just have to take his word for it. And as the funeral is going

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on, in a really cool detail, Logan is looking at one of the

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religious men around, and he notices that there's a Yakuza

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tat under their robe. And now Logan keeps looking around. He's

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like a lot of these people look like they're undercover, so he

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makes a move to try to get Mariko out of there, and that's

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when a monk, one of the monks, shoots Wolverine, giving up his

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accused identity. And Wolverine, normally, he'd shake it off, but

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he finds surprisingly that this time, he is vulnerable to his

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injuries, and he can't just rush into battle as quickly as

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possible. And this is when, right as in the middle of all

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this, the guy we saw hiding on the roof, he decides to get

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involved too. Yeah, I'm gonna call him Japanese Hawkeye for a

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bit, because, um, he was a little bit better than an

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average Hawkeye. But I feel like this was the, this was the

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inspiration for the Avengers endgame sequence that will pop

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up like about five years later, five, six years later. So when

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everyone springs into action, Yukio does her best to try to

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stop him. Hawkeye here, he also tries to shoot down some of the

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the accuser members, while Logan's trying to just shake off

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everything, get back in the game. Weirdly, dr, green does

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something that I feel like is probably more common now than it

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would have been back like 10 years ago, which is to film the

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entire attack. Um, doesn't ever come back up. It doesn't. It

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really, doesn't. So as she's recording the attack, it does

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seem, though, when someone tries to attack her, that she's also

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meeting as well, because she shoots some venom from her mouth

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towards that person's face, the face burns off, and literally,

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that was such a big moment that gets like no preface after,

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nothing gets talked about afterwards. Uh, Marco's able to

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escape of Logan and Hawkeye, but, um, but at least it's full

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chase down the streets, where you basically see this guy

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running from the rooftops, from like rooftop to rooftop,

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surviving every almost single fall that he's making, making

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leafs on just one leg, which I gotta say, is pretty impressive.

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So they are able to escape. Unfortunately, though, it does

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leave with everyone getting separated, except for Marco and

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Logan, who Logan is literally chasing after her bleeding from

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every part of his body, and I can understand now why she

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didn't want to be near him, but fortunately for him, when Marcos

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and the ends up on a bullet train that has travels at 275

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miles per hour or faster, um, Logan is somehow in the seat

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next to her, and it's just decides, I'm just going to

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recline this seat. We're going to figure out the plan on how to

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survive. What's been going on here, yeah, and it's following

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this bit, which is, you know, it's great. It was fun. A lot of

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action, lot of great kills from Logan and the archer. We get a

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strange sort of scene where we go back to the funeral, and

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mariko's fiance is clearly more concerned with being on camera

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than the welfare of his wife. On top of that, in the middle of

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the previous scene, Shingen forced, forced Yukio to protect

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him instead of go after his daughter, which was weird in the

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moment, and now he's also insulting Yukio. And saying,

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like, remember that you're, you know, you're just a stray that

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was picked up by the family, which I'm not sure why he's

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bringing that up. Now, I really this scene was really confusing

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to me. I don't know why anything was happening here,

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but it was really just to show that, just extra scenes, to just

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show that Schengen is a jerk, which is, like, we get it

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already, like, I don't need to know anymore, like, I knew he

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was a jerk ever since he slapped his daughter. Like, yeah, that's

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it. Show me him, show him. Show him being a punk. To me, I'd

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rather that. Because then it'd be like, if he's like, all these

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accusing members are out there, he couldn't even protect his

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daughter because he's, like, trying to hide with Yukio. Like,

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I'd rather just that versus like, let me now show that

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Shingen is assault is insulting to Yukio, which we got like,

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four scenes of before, and it was just like, it's enough.

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Yeah, we we get it. We get it. Um, so after that sequence, we

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do get what arguably is the best sequence in the movie where, um,

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back on the bullet train, Wolverine is going in the

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bathroom. He notices he's still bleeding, and he's really now at

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this point, like Something is definitely wrong with my healing

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factors, something has gone up, and just as he pulls out of the

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bathroom, all of the Yakuza show up. And one of them, I love it's

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a little quick moment, but one of them tries to punch Wolverine

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in the face, and they are instantly because it's just

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straight metal, and you actually even hear the bang. And then

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that's my favorite part. That was that's fun, like little

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things like that. But in the middle of fight, Wolverine

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actually accidentally slashes open the doors, sending them all

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flying to the top of the bullet train, which is probably one of

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the most hype action sequences in X Men history. Yeah, and

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gotta say, the CGI is already much better than the first film.

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You know, we had a lot of cries about the fact that it looked

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like Wolverine was holding pieces of paper between his

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fingers. This is not the case. They finally got it together.

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The crazy thing about this too, is that you're seeing like the

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most dangerous, the dangers of subway surfing and so here on

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the MTA platform all the time, and it's because Wolverine is

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just trying to navigate this super fast, 200 something mile

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per hour train, trying to hold himself down to make sure that

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he can get to the next person he has to take out at the same time

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these Yakuza members who unsure if they have any mutant

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abilities. But for the sake of the movie, we're going to say no

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surviving just by like stabbing into the bullet train, which

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makes me question, like, how strong are their stabs? Or how

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weak is this bullet train material? I would be worried

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about the integrity of this. This train moving as fast, but

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Logan is able to trick one into jumping and hitting a billboard.

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And another one, he uses the momentum of the train to go

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flying into with his claws. So great sequence. After that, he

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comes back, still bloody and injured. And that's when Mariko

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is like, okay, we can hide. So they get a room at a love hotel,

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a mission to Mars, themed room, um, and since it's a love hotel,

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there's only one bed. When Marie glass like, where are you gonna

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sleep? And he's like, I'm not. And then I was like, okay, you

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know, being chivalrous, but he didn't have to go and stand in

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the rain all night, though, yeah, like, he's in a 90s r&b.

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Wolverine loves you. Be a chorus. Everybody's snapping,

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let it fall, um, and it's really a bad idea, because he starts

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hallucinating a very wet gene, um, and you know, gene is also

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like, Yo, why are you doing this? Why are you trying to be a

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hero again? And he's like, honestly, bro, I don't know. And

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he passes out from probably hypothermia, so when he wakes

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up, he's being treated by a doctor. We do see that the

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person who runs the love hotel is there long Marco, and we find

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that that the doctor is actually the love hotel manager's son who

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is a veterinarian. Well, a student, not a not full vet. So

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there's some quick fun about the fact that, like, obviously,

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Logan was under so his like, involuntary reflexes were

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operating. Unfortunately, the vet student was clawed a few

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times, but he seems to be fine. This is when Logan starts

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questioning what's going on in visibilities, because he's like,

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I can't regenerate. I don't understand what's going on. And

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we do get a sense of who might have been the cause of all this.

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Where we hop back over to Dr Green, who seems to be running

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things, is because she meets back up with our our Hawkeye

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here, our Archer, and she's telling him that, like, listen,

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we have to follow along with the plan. I you know, if you don't,

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then you're just in our way. And it's revealed that his name is

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Harada. It also in the earlier scene too. It did seem like

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Harada does have some kind of connection to Marco, because he

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did kind of like pledge his life to protecting her, and in their

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conversation, she does reveal that she did something to to

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hinder or suppress Logan's mutant abilities. So this is

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going to be the best time to to try to take him down, because

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the further along it. Goes the there's a possibility, either he

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there's some time that he probably won't be able to do

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what their plans are. But right now, this seems to be the thing.

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And we hop back over to Marco and Logan, who Logan not all

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patched up. They decide to finally go to the safe house

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that Marco was intending to go to. And this is when we learn

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basically what that connection is with between Marco and

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Harada. First of all, I want to say the dinner that Marco was

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making looked sick. I wanted all of that. Whatever she was making

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in that pot looked good. But this is where Marco drops a lot

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of really important information that she was going to get

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married to Harada at one point when they were 15, but she

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eventually got stuck in an arranged marriage with the

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politician from earlier She also revealed that the reason why she

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was so depressed and willing to Just end it all was that because

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her grandfather, before passing announced that his company and

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all its assets would pass over his son and to his

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granddaughter. So the pressure of possibly running this tech

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Empire, which we only see on the outsides and not like what they

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actually do, I don't know. They probably made the bed. They

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probably made that bed. They at least made the bed. So the

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pressure of installing those beds across Japan was too much,

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and so that's kind of that's why her father was so mad. That's

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why she was unable to really handle the pressure. It's really

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at this point we realize that we don't know what Mariko wants out

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of life at all, like, what are her hopes and dreams like? So

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far, it's been kind of like, I'm sad my grandfather, grandfather

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died. I'm sad I'm getting his company. I don't want to die

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from Yakuza. Actually, I kind of do um, because I'm not wanting

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Logan to come so we really don't know. Even though we're getting

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all this information, we're not really learning that much more

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about her. Specifically, we're just learning her relationship

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to other people in the plot um and this scene, pretty much,

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after these revelations are dropped, we cut to Logan, who,

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um, cuts himself shaving. And you know, I know this is

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supposed to be like, your his healing factor's gone, but I'm

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also thinking like, bro, you need to shave a little bit more

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gently. Like, if you're, if you're bleeding like that every

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time you shave, bro, like, what the hell? What are you doing?

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Bro? Today's unofficial sponsor is Gillette skin guard. They can

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sponsor us. I would let Gillette call us, yeah, and in the middle

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of everything, they find out the tree fell in the middle of the

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road. But luckily, Wolverine was the lumberjack, and even though

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he doesn't remember it, I don't think, anyway, I had to look

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this up. I think, I think it was said that after x2 gene, either

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after x2 or during x3 gene, did kind of bring back some

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memories. Or when he was in the Weapon X facility, some memories

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came back to him, unsure, like, how much or what so possibly

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there. I mean, it also could just be that, like, Logan was

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just like, listen this, this is tree and AX. I'm Verdi man. I do

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this.

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So as he's cutting through this tree, and he's getting like this

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love and attention from the people all around him. He's it

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almost seems like he's finding peace being with Marco in this

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location, even though they know that, like there's this danger

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that's like looming overhead. So they decide to go for a walk,

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because Logan, somehow they again implying that his powers

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are fading. He's feeling tired, so when he looks up, he notices

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something very familiar, as he sees the mountain range where he

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was kept in captivity when he first saved YASHIDA. So we get a

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flashback here. Now, when a little call back to when Yukio

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kind of showed Logan. The reason why she was with him was she

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showed him a sword. And here we get the backstory of it, where

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Logan and Yoshida were in this well, they were talking with one

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another. Again, the chance to learn each other's life, and

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because Logan has saved his and they felt comfortable enough

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about trying to see if it was safe for them to go outside.

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YASHIDA offered him his family's blade. That's this Katana. And

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Logan said, Nope, I don't want it. You keep it. Hold on to it

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for me, I'll come back and pick it up some other time. Yeah,

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and. He you brought up something that I'm now realizing. How does

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he remember this? Yeah, this is why. This is one of my biggest

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issues with this film. The continuity is it's well, because

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the species is, yeah, the timeline is spaghetti, because

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the events of x, men, origins, Wolverine. Remember. This is

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which we will remind everyone. This is a sequel to they have to

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take place after Vietnam, the earliest they have to take place

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after Vietnam. So he lose at the end of that movie. He loses his

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memories of everything prior to Vietnam, but he remembers

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everything that happened with Yoshida specifically, like,

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yeah, all these years later. Ah, gripe about this. He was still

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should have been with Saber Tooth at this time. Saber Tooth

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wasn't gonna help him at all. I was willing to forgive that.

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Like, maybe at some point in the war, they got separated, and you

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know, he was just a POW in this occasion that I was like, I'm,

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I'm willing to let that part slide. But the fact that he can

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remember any of this, I'm, I'm a little, a little a lot disturbed

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by that, um, but speaking of things from Origins, I don't

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like we while after sleeping with Mariko, that happens,

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Mariko tells a story which is basically the Japanese version

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of the Wolverine story that Kayla told, and origins i The

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movie stops to do this story again and again, it doesn't

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really give us any new information. It doesn't really

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advance the story that much and but it does put Logan at an ease

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where he finally admits that all the nightmares he's having

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because she kept have hearing him have nightmares, um, he

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says, well, the gene I keep talking about, well, I killed

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her, and Marco's like all right, and just continues to sleep in

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the bed with him, no follow up. I know you haven't had the best

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partners, but Lady, that's that's not the good response to

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that. When someone tells you is yourself. Girl, choose yourself.

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Use ask for a little bit of context to that. Like, I

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appreciate that you trust, take him on his word that it was

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like, not a bad situation, but no follow up questions. Also, I

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did find it crazy too, that like immediately after admitting that

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he killed Jean to her, he also said, I also killed my humanity

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with it. And I was like, I'm sorry. What? We're not being in

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the same house. No more. Please, please exit or please call me an

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Uber these are not green flags. They're hardly even beige. I is

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so now back at the Ishida compound, we see hukio wakes up

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in fear, and she just says the word Logan. This is assuming,

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while it does seem random, we do know it probably connects with

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her ability to be able to see the death of people. So that

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doesn't matter, because the next morning, we wake up with Logan,

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who hears the screams of Marco. She's being taken by these

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accuser guys. She's shoved into a car. Logan gets shot in the

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leg. He's unable to catch her in time, because, again, he was

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shot in the leg, but he is able to grab someone, and that one

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person, he's like, he's trying to get them to talk. And they're

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like, I'm not snitching. Not going to do nothing about that.

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So Logan decides, because his mask in the comics looks like

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two Batman kissing, he's like, I'm gonna use some Batman

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tactics. And he soon finds out everything, because Yukio, who

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just I'm glad that she's on the good side, because it was like

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she immediately knew where he was going to be. She drives

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over, she sees Logan walking up, and she's he's just like, I need

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to go find noburu, because one of the questions that he asked

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this person is, Who hired you? So now that this has happened,

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they drive over to noborough's place, wherever he's at, Yukio

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shares the dream that she had of Logan dying. Yes, this is the

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oft repeated prophecy everyone in Logan is like, when you watch

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Logan, you're like, Oh, my God, she predicted it, because she

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says that Logan will die with holding his own heart in his

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hand. And I'm like, I'm sorry to ruin it for everybody, but that

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line goes on a little bit longer, and it says, holding

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your own heart in your hand, and it's not beating. So

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unfortunately. If she had stopped a little bit earlier,

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this would have been a perfect prophecy, but, I mean, x 23

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wasn't dead, so this prophecy doesn't work. I'm sorry, guys,

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I'm sorry to ruin that for you, but there's a maybe there's a

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reason we forgot the exact events. So he breaks into nobus

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hotel room. He's partying with some some models, and after some

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more interrogation, the Nobu reveals that I okay. So he

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reveals that YASHIDA was trying to save his own life, and in

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doing so, he nearly went bankrupt again. There is

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absolutely no indication of this before hand that the company is

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in any kind of financial trouble, but let's take his word

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for it, he nearly went bankrupt. So Shingen, who's about to

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inherit the company, it finds out that his daughter is gonna

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get it instead of him, so he arranges for the Yakuza to kill

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his daughter so that he gets the company automatically. Now, why

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would Shingen if he knows the company is in tons of debt. Why

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is he so eager to inherit it? Wouldn't he have more incentive

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to, like, sell his shares, get out beforehand? Wouldn't he want

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his daughter to take it so he could, like, take the shares and

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then, like, later, buy back the company at a lower market value,

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and then, like ideal, this is an ideal situation for him to just

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not do anything. Why would he arrange for the Yakuza to kill

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his daughter to inherit a company that is on the verge of

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collapse? Anyway, this makes no sense to me. Um, and, but again,

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we're not going to focus too much on the finer details,

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because Logan is so upset with all this news that he throws the

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nabaru out of the window, where he lands in a pool. And, you

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know, there's a cute exchange where, um, Yukio is like, How'd

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you know there was a pool there? And Logan goes, I don't implying

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that that man's gonna be fine. No, that man is dead. I'm sorry

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to tell you guys, but the the the fall from that height into a

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pool of water is like hitting cement. That man is dead. Yeah,

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yeah. I will say though, I think, I think I just because I

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gravitate towards these, like, nonsensical action movies, tough

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guy roles that kind of do things like this. I really enjoy this

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scene. Oh no, it's funny, because it's at one point where

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he tells him, it's like, you have 10 words to tell me why you

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want your fiance dead. And he starts rambling. Tries to give

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us, like, What are you talking about in the eight thing? So he

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punches him, and then Logan turns to Yukio. Was like, how

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many words was that? And she was like, nine. And he's like, we

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only got one word left. It was like, Thank you, Logan. We can

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count. And he just says, Shingon.

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Yeah, it is a very convoluted plan. And I agree, I don't

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understand why Shingon didn't just sell the company like I I

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know, like, ultimately the answer is probably going to be

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some honor. Like, I'm as soon as I heard that plan, I was just

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like, obviously, this is like, that Zuko mentality of just

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like, honor is really only associated with, like, how my

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family has put it onto me, and now you could be honorful and

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have a lot of money by selling your father's company, who

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basically bankrupt it, and then you try to hide everything. So

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it's like, this is even more of incentive try to sell the

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company that you were, that you could, there's like a paper

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trail of you trying to hide the fact that embezzlement was going

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on. Like you could literally get out of this scot free. So I

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don't understand why it's a very convoluted plan. It's still a

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better plan, though, than Justice League Gods and

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Monsters. I will admit that. Yeah, this one, this plan is

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just stupid. It's not that convoluted. Yeah, it only takes

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like five seconds to do. But now we, as this has happened, we see

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that Marco is brought by the Yakuza to her father, who starts

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sharing, for in a random tangent about how he studied biology to

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learn about mutations and all this stuff. If I there's no real

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explanation as to why it could just seem to be more so like

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daddy issues. Dad was in love mutants. I was not one. Let me

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try to see what I could do there. I felt like there was way

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more they could have expanded on that question. Quick question

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for you, sorry. Um yeah. Why is she alive? Huh? Jack. Was not

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his goal this entire time to kill her. Why is she alive right

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now? Huh? Damn. Um, well, looks like I'm now like Wolverine in

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the at the end of the Logan movie, I've I've been stumped.

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Um, nice. I have no idea why she's still alive if the plan is

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to kill her before the reading of the will so that she doesn't

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get everything See, this is just villains wanting to put share

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out their plans. Is stupid, especially because something

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that gets randomly referenced, like literally, you blink and

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you will miss this. You, you walk you, you stand up and you

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will miss this in this movie. Um, they do share that there is

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a ninja clan called the hand, unrelated to Ninja Turtles or

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Jackie Chan Avengers, because this is this. This was comic

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accurate. They they are supposed to be the people who are in

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charge of protecting the YASHIDA family or Yoshida clan for for

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generations, and it seems that prior to his death, this is

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true, the Yoshida, Mr. YASHIDA, was able to put in place this

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protection. So as Shingen and Marco are having this

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conversation of why she's good, why he's going to kill her, but

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she's not dead yet, we see the we see the whole place get

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overrun, not only by the ninja clan, but it's revealed that

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Harada and Dr crane, sorry, Dr Green, who is going by the name

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Viper for comic wise, but also randomly said at the very end of

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this film, for some reason, they are leading the troops here. And

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at this point we see that Dr green takes a weapon, poisons

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it, and stabs shingan with it, assuming now that he's dead,

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Logan and Yukio arrive at the place, and they find a note

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telling them to meet them at yashidas birthplace. I think

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it's like or where the company, the larger company is actually

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held like the facility itself. So this is another random moment

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that if you blink in this film, you will miss it. But in an

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earlier scene, when Logan first met up again, was reunited with

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Mr. YASHIDA, he sees these like creatures floating around in

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some kind of like ooze of some sort. And when he looks at that

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same container now that he's back, he doesn't see anything in

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the container. So he hops onto the bed that everybody wants in

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their dreams right now, and he gets the X ray scan to reveal

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that there is a creature, one of those creatures inside him. So

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I'm I'm just going to assume, because it's never explicitly

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said it all throughout the rest of this film, that Dr green

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somehow put the creature inside him to affect his healing

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abilities, maybe by shooting it through her mouth when they were

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kissing. I assume that was a delivery system. I am not sold

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in the slightest that he would know to look inside of his body

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to find a parasite on his heart. I'm not. I'm I don't track how

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that was, how he even got that idea in the first place, because

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it doesn't make any sense to just to check that. Like, unless

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he did, he didn't do any other test. He just was like, Oh, let

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me just check my body right now to see if it's in this like, it

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could have been digested. It could have been in your

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bloodstream. It could have been, yeah, it could have been, like,

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molecule size, like, I don't understand how, like, he knew,

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and it was like, just time to check. Like, it would have made

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more sense if it was like throughout the movie, not only

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was he, like, feeling this pain, but he was like, from getting

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hurt all the time and his abilities not coming back up,

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but also feeling like something's moving around him.

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Or even, let that be the reason why he was seeing gene like,

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like, yeah, something. It would have even been simpler to just

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have a line at the beginning of the movie where it's like, Yo,

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this bed, by the way, this bed can diagnose anything like,

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like, one line. And then later he comes in, he's like, Well,

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before we go, which he just does this again. He checks himself

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out impromptu, of nothing. It wasn't like, motivated by his

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desire to save Mariko. It's like, implied. But I it would

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have been the cleaner, I think, to just say, Oh, this back. Can

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scan anything well before I go, let me see if there's something

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wrong. And then he can find the heart parasite. And then, you

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know, bing, bang, boom. But instead, he just figures it out.

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So at this point he sees the parasite, his heart. He decides

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to do a little self surgery. Now I'm going to admit I'm. The

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scene's pretty cool. He's doing surgery on himself with his

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claws. At the same time, Shingon comes back with the sword and

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randomly attacks. So Yukio has to defend Wolverine while he's

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doing the surgery, which I think is really fun. The the creative,

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it's really creative choreography in the room that

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they're operating in, and there's even a point where he

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can't see the operation because they move things around. So, you

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know, it's pretty, pretty fun, except one thing I can't

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forgive. So what Logan does is he pulls out the parasite

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attached to his heart. He's holding the parasite in his

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hand, and he has goes into cardiac arrest and temporarily

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dies. That's not his heart in his hand, though. That's a

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parasite in his hand. He didn't so yukio's whole prediction is,

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was wrong, though, right, like top to bottom was like, we can't

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trust some of your inabilities. Yeah, unreliable. So um, but he

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does recover to jump into battle with Shingon, which this is the

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section I of of succession of scenes I like to call cool, but

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pointless, because Shingon just a regular dude who's poisoned

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and has a sword against Wolverine. There's really This

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conclusion is foregone. And what they try to do to make this

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scene interesting is the this is the thing that made me the most

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upset in this movie. I have to say, they try to imply that the

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reason Wolverine and Schengen are fighting is because

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Wolverine needs information. He asked, where's Mariko? Bitch?

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You already know you have a poster that says where to go.

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You learn this and minutes ago in movie time, why are you

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asking him? What did no one look at these two scenes in the

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editing room and go like, Oh, we should cut one of these, because

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he already has the information. He needs the fight, but the

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information is pointless. You already have it, and he doesn't,

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can't do anything to you. Like, it would have been more

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interesting if you just kept trying. To Logan was like, I'm

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gonna go from the start, yeah, and he just has to kill him just

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to but, like, this fight is pointless. And again, it's cool,

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claws against sword. I'm not gonna lie. I like seeing that as

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an action person, but as a story person, we could have skipped

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this, especially in a two hour movie. We could have skipped

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this, especially

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because there's no additional dialog that's given except for

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like, the where is she like, this would have been the perfect

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moment to kind of dive into the, you know, at this point we know

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that Shengen is a jerk, but we never really got an explanation

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as to why. Like, he he shares like, Oh, my father was always

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fascinated by you. Again, we don't know to what extent that

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fascination was. This would have been the perfect moment to be

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like, you know, I spent so much time trying to honor my father

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reveal the thing about like, you know, trying to or even like,

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hype up the thing about like, you know, I was the one that

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tried to save the company after he embezzled so much of the

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money, trying to extend his life. And this is how he decides

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to treat me, you know, I've never been favored by him. And

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even like, you know, they spent so much time trying to throw

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Gaijin into the into the script of this film, like this have

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been the perfect time, because it's like, this is now treated

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less from the way that this movie has been played out. It's

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treated less of like mutant relations that this would have

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been the perfect moment to just be like, Let's go full true

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outsiders appreciation. Because it's like, here it was that his

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father had always loved or always talked about Logan, maybe

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was fascinated by him, and then literally, his daughter

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experienced the same thing. So it was like, that would have

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been a perfect moment to be like, I'm upset because my

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father never really honored his family, even though I've been

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trying to get his appreciation all my life, and even now after

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his death, I still don't get it, because of people like you and

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Yukio who are stepping in, literally, that could have been

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the fight and then as Logan even, because it still would

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have worked the way that the sequence of events in the film.

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Because when Logan decides I'm gonna let you live, because I

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realized that my beef isn't with you. So as he walks away,

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Shingen does try to attack, and unfortunately, Logan has to pull

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the the claws of his triggers and just snicked him to death.

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And that would have been great, because it'd been like, here it

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was. Do you have this person who was misguided this entire time

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shares his anger about his situation, you still get the

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same result that you had in the film. It's right there. But we

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gotta move on. Yeah, I just realized I did my own Yeah. No,

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no, it's fine. RT alteration. There, yeah, for that section,

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no, it's I, it's what it is. So this now, now, this is where

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things kind of get started to get really silly for the movie,

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we cut to Mariko, who was, you know, in been kidnapped. In a

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scene, Harada and Viper the DR green reveal that they've been

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working together the whole time to Mariko. So Dr green poisons

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Mariko, right, knocks her out, takes her to sleep. The next

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scene, she wakes up in another part of the facility, and she

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does the same thing. Why did these what was the point of

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those two scenes? Why couldn't you just cut to the scene where

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she wakes up at the facility? There was absolutely no reason

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for her to do that. It's like when you try to make the the

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word limit on your essay, like exactly, just stretching out,

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can't, cannot. So Wolverine shows up around a compound. He

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knows it's probably a trap. Harada says, you know,

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basically, come with us. You're not getting Mariko. And

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Wolverine drops an F bomb right here. It's like, Go, f yourself.

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Pretty boy, even though, have they interacted before this

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point at all, only from a distance, and pretty sure, one

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of the times was when Harada shot someone to either save

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Logan or he missed and he was supposed to shoot Logan. We

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don't know. We really don't know who, what side they're on. So,

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yeah, this is the first time they've interacted. And really

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the main connection to their interactions, like they both

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want to save Mariko and Logan just ends up being the new

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boyfriend. That is basically what this is treated as, yeah.

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So he runs forward. He's fighting a bunch of ninjas.

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Ninjas are shooting arrows with strings in him. He ends up

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looking like a pin cushion, which, again, this is a cool,

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cool imagery of Logan loaded up with arrows. They even hit him

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with the poison arrow. So it is cool. I'm going to say this is

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cool, but point full, because it's full points, all the arrows

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are sharp pointy. So this scene is great. Unfortunately, again,

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I'm distracted by in the very next scene after Wolverine is

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shot with all those arrows and captured, Yukio pulls up to the

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facility with no resistance, absolutely none. There were

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about 5000 ninjas. Logan doesn't kill many of them. And in fact,

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after this point, the ninjas go away completely for I guess they

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just went to another mission. Because, yeah, don't come back.

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They weren't killed. They just don't come back at all for the

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rest of this movie. Why? This is also a pretty large facility

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with a lot of mechanical stuff to be operating. So no one's no

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one. No one gets in our way at all. She just walks up to them

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and we cut to Wolverine in some binding metal bindings, where

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Viper gives really clunky exposition of stuff we already

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understand at this point that she poisoned Wolverine to

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suppress his healing factor for the point of capturing him,

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sure, okay, for A good majority of the film, yeah, we figured,

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um, so at this point, um Harada also talks to mararico and is

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trying to rekindle their romance that we just heard about off

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screen. We have never seen these two interact at this point

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either. Um and he goes for a kiss, which is absolutely the

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wrong time. And after she rejects him and runs away,

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Harada immediately has a change of heart and shoots Viper

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immediately. Oh, my God, I will say though I just because it's,

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uh, just because it's a reference. I did appreciate

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Marco using the baby knife, um, to just stab the Arata, but,

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like, not, not even enough to, like, really distract them. It's

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like, literally, like, getting poked by a by a thumbtack.

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Really, like, that was a much pressure. It was into it. But

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yeah, you're right. It is weird that he immediately starts to go

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after Viper, which he shoots her with one of the previously

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poisoned arrows that he created, which I which also she states to

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Logan that she's actually immune to most, if not all, um poison.

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So it's like it's wild that the one that she's alert, the one

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thing that she can't, she can't work against, is. The one thing

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that they have in the facility, it's like, why is that even

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there? Wolverine and Marco tried to escape, but they get

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cornered, and they're in the split up. We also see that the

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thing, the big plan of this whole thing, which was alluded

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to in one random scene. Again, if you blink you missed it,

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Yukio sees like some blueprints for a suit of armor, which was

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also in another blink. If you missed it, you learn about the

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silver samurai at the funeral of Mr. YASHIDA. We see now that

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this silver Samurai is sitting next to was sitting next to

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Logan. It's now active. It looks like a giant free template for

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the TMNT shredder. And this is now this whole giant structure

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is chasing after them. It's fighting against them. It's

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trying to kill them, if anything. And unfortunately,

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everything they try to do doesn't work. We learned also

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that the armor is coded in adamantium, so it's like,

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literally, now it's like Wolverines, which, in the movie

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description of this movie calls it Wolverine's ultimate nemesis.

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And I'm just like, that's a bit of a stretch. So as they're

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fighting, unfortunately, though, somehow the silver Samurai is

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able to heat up its adamantium blade and uses it as an

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opportunity to cut directly through Logan's claws. Yes,

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which I thought, again, cool, cool looking as Logan is

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struggling to kind of turn the tables. Viper randomly gets a

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gruesome hanging Dev. I think, honestly, this is one of the

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most gruesome deaths in an X Men movie. Like, hangs her, yeah,

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it's like, it's like, the end of Tarzan. Yeah, that they

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immediately thought of that, and I was like, damn. Like that.

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That's a triggering death. Yeah. That was like, Okay, wow. Um, so

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now also, Harada turns on the silver samurai. He has a change

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of heart again and is immediately killed. Thanks for

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coming. Um, all the ninjas stay out of this um, so now, all

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right, so here's where the silver samurai corners Wolverine

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um,

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and starts extracting Wolverine's DNA with these

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drills and starts taking Wolverine's like genetic

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material out through his claws. Okay, okay, so here he starts

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sucking out the metal of from Wolverine's skull, and it is

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implied that sucking out the metal is giving the silver

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samurai the healing factor. How? It's not the metal that makes

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biology. I did not study biology in college. I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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excuse myself from this, this conjure. But the actual reveal

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here is that the person inside the silver samurai shoot is

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indeed Wolverine's old friend, YASHIDA. Before you see, YASHIDA

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planned on getting Wolverine's healing factor, and when

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Wolverine said, No, this adamantium suit he built

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strictly that, he said he built to keep him alive, but

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conveniently, it's in the shape of a samurai and has heated

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swords, you know, just in case to keep him alive. Um, so he,

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it's like, what are you trying to fight against, bro? Like

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you're not gonna meet the disease. It was like going to

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the supermarket picking up my eggs in the full on samurai

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soup. Made the man, the man team with the heated up. Clade, yeah.

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Um, but yeah. So that's what this plan to extract, forcefully

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take Wolverine's healing factor so Wolverine starts dying. But

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luckily, there's one thing the silver samurai didn't account

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for little knives, and those little knives are Logan's claws.

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This is the most. This was the weird this I got. I was not

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expecting this, because Marco is able to find a three of

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Wolverine's claws at the time from when they were previously

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cut off. They do get cut off. His other hand gets cut off

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again. Um, so Marco takes the three of them, but only uses

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two, one to stab it into the head of her grandfather. And

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this is at a point where he's like, still absorbing

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Wolverine's healing factor. So you see him actually becoming a

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younger man, and he turns to Marco. Tries to please with her,

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like, I'm your I'm your grandfather, that you recognize

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me. And she's like, No, my grandfather is dead. And then

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takes the other blade and stabs him in the neck, I assume, which

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makes me question if he was already stealing Wolverine's

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healing abilities. How did he die? I have that exact note. I

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have that exact note. How is this killing him? Because he's

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supposed to be healing, right? And it's like they try to have a

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cake and eat it too, like he's you see YASHIDA getting younger,

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and obviously, so he has some kind of healing factor in his

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body. Um, by taking it, but they also have the cake that until

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the transfer is completely complete, it doesn't save him

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from everything, which doesn't make any sense. It like, if

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you're if you're aging backwards, and that's how fast

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your body is healing, then a couple knives should not be an

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issue for you think, but it is, and for some reason, hurting him

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physically also interrupts the process of like The machine

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industry flew flew back into Wolverine, yes. Oh. My God. So

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with that, now that YASHIDA is either dead or dying, Logan

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says, Listen, I came back here to say goodbye to a friend,

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sayonara throws YASHIDA in the suit off of a cliff. Not gonna

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lie, I felt a little weird to say Sayonara, after they spent

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the majority of this movie trying to make references. And I

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was like, we could have literally gone with something

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other than Sayonara, which is just so feels a little weird to

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say, Yeah, and I'm not going to let this scene go, because

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somebody, some people, might skip past this, but I'm

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absolutely not skipping past this. Wolverine has another

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dream of gene I dream of Geneva gene, and she says, Logan, I'm

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all alone in the afterlife. Join me. This line implies one of two

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things, which I both love. One, that gene in the afterlife is

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like F. Afterlife is like F Cyclops. He's here, but I don't

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care. Or Logan, in his own mind, perceives gene as saying F

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Cyclops in the afterlife, because he's also dead right

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now. And I don't care. Either one I am 100% that had me dying

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when thinking about like, either possibility, psychologists are

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standing there like, Yo, what you for real, me and me after,

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like, what about chop liver? So after this dream sequence, we

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hard cut to a bright day, Logan is healed from his injuries, and

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it's time for him to leave Japan for absolutely no reason, no

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reason at all. He does have one last goodbye kiss with Mariko,

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um, he states that, you know, soldier needs to be about in the

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field. And this is when on the plane, Yukio is just like, Hey,

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um, you know, I'm gonna hang with you as your bodyguard.

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Where should we go next? He's like, it's all good. We'll just

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get up in the air. We'll figure it out from there. Our movie

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ends there. But of course, because this is 2000 superhero

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storytelling, we immediately get an after credit scene. And in

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this after credit scene, we see an ad in the airport for Trask

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industries. Trask is associated with the Sentinel project, so

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that becomes a bigger plot point in three years time movie take

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movie wise when, or chronological time wise, where

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we get introduced to Trask and days of features past story, and

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we see how it gets built up when Logan, who is ready to walk

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through the detector to Male detector, unsure how much

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Adamantium is in his body, because also in the fight, in

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his fight, he does pull out his bone claws, so unsure how much

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adamantium he still has. And as he's walking through, he notices

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that every metal object around him is going a little haywire,

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and he immediately recognizes that it has to be Magneto. So

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when he turns around, he comes face to face with Sir Ian

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McCullen, who's telling him that, like the world's in danger

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and we need to band together. This is what we've experienced.

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The third movie was not the last stand. This is it coming up

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right now, and Logan's like, why should. I trust you. I'm never

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going to follow you. And magnesite, well, because I got

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back up and pulling a Tokyo Drift through the frozen in time

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crowd, we see a man in a wheelchair. Yep, Charles is

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back. Why? Because this timeline is spaghetti. And he's like, Yo,

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some stuff's about to go down. I'm gonna need you. And that's

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it. Hard cut. We're done, all right. And with that now,

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because X Men movies tend to not wear clothing they're typical

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for superhero them. Would this movie? Do you think this movie

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should have gotten the cape, or should have gotten, or should

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they have gotten the classic Marvel, secret in hidden in

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disguise? Cap, there are no, there are no compromises in Cape

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or cap people, it's one or the other. There's there's no

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halfway. So I'm going to say this movie is cap. I came back.

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I was really excited to revisit it, because I I forgot it, you

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know, I thought maybe it got lost in the shuffle, but now I

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fully understand why it did. This movie's central problem is

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there are a lot of cool things and ideas here. There's a

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detective story, there's a romance, there's a war

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flashback, there's grappling with humanity and mortality, and

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it wants to do it all, and it could have, if they had just

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tried a little bit harder to make everything fit in cohesive

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ways, cut out characters. There's too many characters in

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this movie. A Harada is a the biggest problem in this movie of

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a character that's too much just his whole story with Mariko is

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given barely any room to grow. There's really no reason. If you

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cut him out of the movie, the events pretty much play out

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exactly the same, like Logan has a little less help with the

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Yakuza, but you could save money on parkour on top of building

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scenes. But yeah, this this movie, there's it just doesn't

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seem like there was really a goal of anything from Logan

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learn. And I'm immediately diving into an RTE alteration

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where I would start this movie with Logan in Japan already.

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He's already in Japan. You could do the same sequence with the

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bear and the hunters. It just takes place in Japan because

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after every the events of last stand. He wanted to get far away

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from the X Men as possible. So he goes to Japan, a place he

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knows he lives in the woods or like at a monastery. This is

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something the X Men animated series did, um, and this would

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also make sense of why he's having so many flashbacks to

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World War Two. Specifically, if he goes back to Japan, and he's

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in Japan at the beginning, then it's logically why he's thinking

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of that war specifically, and all these memories of YASHIDA

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while he's out there, he the again, the bear arrow sequence

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plays out the same just in Japan. Then Yukio finds him, and

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it's like, oh, ironic. I've been looking for you everywhere, but

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you were here the whole time. And then when he's brought to

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YASHIDA, his mission is, Ishida doesn't say. YASHIDA offers him

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this, I will make you mortal in three days if you protect my

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granddaughter for that long. So now we also have a connection of

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Logan has a mission, a reason to be there. Because, right in the

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movie, he's like after he denies YASHIDA, he could instantly just

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leave. But in this movie, if you say, I will give you the give

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you the mortality in exchange for protecting my granddaughter

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for three days, Logan's torn about it, because he just did it

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with Gene and failed. And then when he goes and saves Mariko

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right after, then it's like, Oh, damn it. Now I'm in it. Now I'm

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actually in it by accident. I can't help myself. And also, we

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throw in a quick scene where Dr green actually, like, preps him

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for the procedure, so that later on, when stuff goes wrong, Logan

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has a logical reason to suspect Dr green is the problem, instead

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of him just spontaneously covering coming out with it. Um,

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so again, this is just to streamline those movies. We cut

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Harada out completely. Um, and as just an added bonus, if we

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really want to bring Shingen in, have from the front we have

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yeshida say, Look, I don't trust my son with the business. I just

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signed over everything to Mariko. So that's set in stone.

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And if you want to add, instead of the Harada scenes, you can

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flesh out Shingen and like, why he would be a bad for the.

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Company make it so that Shingon needs his daughter's signature

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to transfer over the company. That's why he needs to keep her

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alive until she signs. And I think little changes like that

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to weld the movie together, cut out a little bit of the fat. I

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think we were on the right track. I don't mind the sober

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samurai twist. Honestly, I'm, I'm whatever about it, to be

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honest with you. But I do think if the movie starts with Ishida

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tricking Logan openly, like the whole pretense of of the

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protecting three days, maybe, like, he set that all up too.

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You know, he set it up like let it slip to his son, so his son

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would take extreme action and, and, you know, challenge Logan,

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whatever. But I think something to make the movie flow a little

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bit better, because at as it is, there's a lot of cool scenes in

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this movie, a lot of cool scenes. I just don't think the

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backbone is strong, as aunt adamantium here, and ultimately,

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for me, I think the movie becomes forgettable, because a

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lot of cool stuff happens, but just there's just no through

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line. The through line is just not strong enough. There are

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random 20 minute parts of this movie where they just talk, and

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I'm normally not against that, but in this movie just doesn't

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work. So that's my cat. Those are good reasons, especially

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because those are the same reasons and feelings that I had,

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which is why while if this movie came out in the 80s, it would've

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been a cape. It is ultimately a cap. For me. You know, there's a

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lot of great action sequences throughout, like the bullet

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train scene is amazing work, especially because you do feel

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the intensity of like, what the situation could turn into. I

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also really enjoyed the Yukio Shingen fights, even, like there

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was one particular move that she pulled out was just like, that

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is, that's how you that's how you fill them out in action

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sequence when you're using katanas or any kind of swords.

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Um, even just, like, visually seeing whatever, even though,

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like, you know, the stakes between Wolverine and Schengen

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aren't really that big of a deal because of the fact that it's

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like, Wolverine is not going to succumb to any of these wounds,

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just seeing the action that's taking place between Shingen

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using the Katana and then Wolverine uses claws, amazing.

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Um, there is just also that some of the imagery and

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cinematography was pretty cool. Like I did feel like, while, you

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know, we've seen stuff like Oppenheimer and other movies

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that have done this, like nuclear bombing sense, I think

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that, given the fact that this was like a movie now that's like

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11 years old, the way that they were able to handle the CGI of

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that bomb was pretty cool. So I'll give them that, because

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they did some I feel like they did some pretty okay with, like,

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set designs and landscape shots. Like it did feel like it was,

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from what I've seen at that time, what it felt like Japan,

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understanding what it felt like to be in Japan. I also

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appreciate the fact that X Men origins Wolverine's kind of

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chummy side, whereas, like, he can banter and bond with every

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single character wasn't in this movie at all. Like it was clear,

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like, if he didn't like somebody, he just didn't like

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them. There was no like, don't, don't get killed, not before I

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killed you. First kind of dialog, which I really, really

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appreciated. But ultimately, the thing that made this a cat for

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me is just, like, there's just so many continuity errors, um,

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and like, the flow of certain things, like the plan was too

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convoluted. Continuity wise, I did have an issue with the fact

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of like, the fact that the Nagasaki bombing would have

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taken place in 1945 well in advance of the Vietnam War. So

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again, I felt like Wolverine should have been with Saber

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Tooth if this is supposed to be a direct sequel to origins in

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some way. And you know, there just feels like something else.

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A lot of stuff that was happening in this movie didn't

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connect with what was supposed to be Wolverine story across

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this trilogy, it was more so like Wolverine story in

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connection to the X Men, the X Men films that we had. And this

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really, I don't really even really know when or how this is

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supposed to take place, because if you released it before X Men,

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days of futures past to us. That's supposed to be canon. So

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the events should have flown from Origins through the X Men

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movies to now, and it doesn't feel like it did, because it

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just feels like the fact that he just Yes, he left the X Men

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because of everything that happened in the last stand. But.

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Felt like a lot of this stuff just was like internal battles,

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which I can see, which I'll talk about in the comics. I could see

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them trying to pull that up, but it just doesn't make sense. So

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that's why I was just like, a lot of this just feels

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convoluted. A lot of this feels as if it's just like we made the

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Wolverine movie, because we know Hugh Jackman is the biggest

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character from the X Men movies, and we need to capitalize on

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that. And while it's a great film for action, it's just not

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really a great film. It's not it's a it's an okay film at

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best. So it's too hyped up. I feel I'm again, I felt the same

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way like watching it. I was going into knowing that we were

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gonna cover it. I was, like, very excited for it, because I I

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also completely forgotten that this film had existed, um, and I

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realized that I did go see this in theaters. I just don't

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remember. I didn't remember anything that happened in this

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film, because I was more hyped about the fact of what they were

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doing at the end with the post credit scene of like, bringing

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forward the idea of days of futures past. Also, other side

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note about that whole scene, where was Yukio? Yeah. I mean,

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this is one again, I'm grain of salt, and I'm being really

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generous that Yukio has implied to have died off screen because

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Days of Future, past takes place in the future, far in the

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future, after the Sentinels have kind of messed everything up. So

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I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt there. If

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you're asking why she wasn't in the airport after saying she'll

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follow Logan anywhere. Got nothing for you. Got absolutely

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nothing for you. I cannot answer that question except the fact

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that they shot that. Sorry, spoilers, but yeah, they shot

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that scene very late into the process, so they probably could

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not get the actress to return, because she was most likely busy

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with arrow at that point. That makes sense, all right. Well,

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speaking of other those, like behind the scenes, stuff,

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anything else, that was the reason why this is resulting in

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the cap for us, not

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too many small details, but we do know we have confirmation.

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The script was rewritten multiple times. And some of the

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things that I I just point out, things that I thought would have

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been cool to see, or at least interesting to see in this

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movie. One version had Mariko as the daughter of a crime lord,

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which would have been really interesting if Yoshida was a

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crime lord after he took his life and turned it into

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something corrupt that would have been cool and that you

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could have this parallel of like, maybe, what if Wolverine

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would have let him die, you know, then this villainous

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Empire wouldn't have been created to mirror what happened

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with Gene and like taking that decisive action did present

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something could have been interesting. Never mind that

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though um rogue was heavily featured in one version, but the

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writer admitted that there was no way to make it natural. All

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good. And Hugh Jackman personally promised the actor

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playing the blob, I just Oh, his name just slips me, but he was,

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he's a great character actor, but he promised that the blob

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was going to return in this movie as a sumo wrestler.

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Okay, it could have worked, but also, it would not work. Yeah, I

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think that would have been put it over the offensive territory.

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Kevin Durant, yeah. Kevin Durant, yeah, yeah, that's I was

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like, thinking I was just like, I know it's not Durant. It is

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Durant. Um, apparently they had a little bit of trouble filming

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in Japan, so some of the scenes were limited, and also rogue

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would have been powerless, I think, if we're going by the

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cannon, yeah, at this point. And last but not least, Guillermo

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del Toro, at one point, was circling directing this. But

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ultimately he was like, No thanks, wow. Guillermo in an

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excellent film would have been great. This was Yeah, to me,

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this would not have been the film. I would have chosen

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friends, yeah, um, yeah. New Mutants, gambles would have been

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great. Yeah, joke, but Yeah, way better than what it actually

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was. Oh yeah, giant bear. Maybe one day. Was it the same bear

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that that Logan killed? I think so we need to check up on that

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one day of a schematic we might revisit New Mutants. Because

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wow, oh wow. What a movie. What a film. One of the films of all

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time, sure that was a sequence of events that would put in

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front of a camera. Wow. Okay. No, I like that. I like it would

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have been really cool though to see that idea of what would have

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happened if Mariko was actually the daughter of a crime lord.

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That would have been interesting, especially because,

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as you said, it would be in the direct parallel to what Logan

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was dealing with with having to kill gene, which, honestly, this

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is a perfect segue into our comic book section for today.

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Oh, because this movie is based off of one of the first solo

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adventures with Wolverine having his self titled book. This is a

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part. This was adapted from a four part 1982 mini series

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written by Chris, Chris Claremont and art by Frank

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Miller. So already you're hearing like two goaded

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individuals when it comes to X Men and comic books on this side

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of the of the world. And this was the second limited series

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ever produced by Marvel. And the goal of this story was to really

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dive into Logan's character and his struggle of being the man

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versus being the animal, or, as this movie calls it, the kozuri.

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That's, yeah, that's actually never used in the comic. So

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quick plot breakdown. It actually opens up a lot like a

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movie, no Nagasaki bombing. We actually opened up immediately

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to the Canadian Rockies, where Wolverine has to go and find a

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bear that's been attacking people. He finds it battles it

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kills it. But he does come across that barbed wire, that

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barbed arrow, the poisoned one, and because of the way it's been

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made, he knows it's illegal, so he tracks down the hunter that's

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responsible that Hunter, he and the hunter get into a fight. The

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Hunter decides to turn himself in, and once Wolverine finishes

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that mission, he heads back to the X mansion and finds these

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letters from Marco that he originally sent a person he

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remembers and being in love with have all been sent back to him

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unopened. So there's the there's the reason for why he should

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would have popped up in Japan. That would make more sense,

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because he's checking up on an old friend, yes, yes, and when

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he arrives, he gets immediately stopped by immigration, um,

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luckily for him, though, the head of the offices in Japan is

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actually another old friend of his name Asano, who allows Logan

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to stay with him until he learns what's happening with Mariko.

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And he learns, upon going to find her at her place, that

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she's been married off to an abusive man named noburu, and

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that her father, Lord Shingen Yoshida, was the one that's

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responsible for arranging this marriage, and she doesn't want

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to leave, nor noburu, because she's staying with him for

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honor. Logan's devastated by this, but before he can properly

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leave, Logan gets created by Nobo, who's very upset over his

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wife having another man in the house. So they decide to head on

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over to the Ishida residence, where Shingen is there. And he

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decides he wants to battle with Logan in the duel, and the two

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of them fight. Logan gets a chance. We see this is the first

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time Logan's using a sword, a Katana sword, in order to fight,

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but because he gets frustrated with the fact that Shingen is

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actually hitting him on his pressure points in order to

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weaken him, Logan pulls his claws, and Mariko is horrified

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to see this. But then Shingen, knowing that he's in a more

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aggravated state, is able to leave him broken, poisoned and

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mentally unwell, and he throws him in the street, where Logan

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gets attacked by some people who are calling him Gaijin, and

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Logan just kills them. Oh, well, that's one way to solve the

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problem. So Logan wakes up, um, he gets saved by more from more

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people attacking by Yukio. This is yukio's appearance. Now she's

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an assassin. She's infatuated by him, and they like fight against

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it gets introduced more so that he's fighting now against the

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hand, the same ninja clan that we're introduced to in the

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movie. And Yukio reveals that she's being hunted by them

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because she defy, yeah, she defied their leader, who was

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actually a crime lord. Mm, okay, and I like it, yeah. And this

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whole time they decided to form an alliance. But then Yukio

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loves the savage side of Wolverine, while Wolverine is

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trying to be a kinder. Man because he wants to be with

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Mariko. So the whole comic is really just him fighting

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against, again, the animal versus the man, which is what I

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can see, what they were trying to do with this film. But they

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just focus too heavily on it being gene and never really kind

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of express that. Like, why is he the animal? Like, I could see it

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in the dialog, where he's just, like, with the killing of gene,

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I killed my humanity. But they never really explained that,

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because it's like he did it to save the world. Yeah, and I did

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forget to mention, like, for most of this movie, is very

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passive to like, just the overarching thing of the movie

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is that, you know, he has, there's this question

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introduced, like, if he wants to be mortal at the beginning,

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right? So, you know his goal, loosely is established, like he

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wants to be mortal. But in the rest of the movie, him

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protecting Mariko doesn't get him any closer to his journey of

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being mortal. And in fact, he rejects the idea of being

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immortal because he wants to protect her, which I get what

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you're trying to do. But again, it's like this doesn't benefit

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him in any way, like it doesn't get him closer. So it's like the

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question of mortality or not is dropped. So if you want to see a

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movie where you know someone near immortal is grappling with

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whether they should do it or not, watch Deadpool two damn

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like the other end of the spectrum. Um, so now that Logan

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is just hanging around with Yukio. They just he gets he's

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and he's like leaning into this more angry, saddest himself. He

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decides that he wants to fight against the Ishida clan, once

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again, fight against the engine, try to save Marco. So they head

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over to a play. Unfortunately, the play turns out to be again,

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a bunch of the hand ninja clan members are there to fight him

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once again and try to capture Yukio, and he ends up killing

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every single person that is attacking him. Marco sees this,

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and she's just like, I'm done, completely done. So he's now

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wallowing in misery, doing all this stuff, he decides to head

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back to his um, to the hotel of his friend, Asano, who has been

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murdered. Oh, this man had two lines in the comic and was

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murdered. That's what you get for being near Wolverine. So

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when he is looking up what happened to Asano, he finds a

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blade, and he smells on it that is Yukio, um, but he also

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realizes that the poison on it is something that he that was

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used against him by Shingen. So he tries to confront Yukio about

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it, but unfortunately, he doesn't get any he doesn't get

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any of his stuff answered. Yukio escapes, so now he has to find a

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way to talk to Shingen about everything that's been happening

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here. So they fight. That's basically all that happens.

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Yukio gets captured at some point, Shingen shares about how

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he doesn't like Yukio has never explained how they know each

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other.

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So now, when they finally get their Shingen and Wolverine

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finally have their duel, Wolverines finally prepared to

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take them out. And this is when Mariko intervenes from Wolverine

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killing Shengen, her father, and gives her the family sword as a

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symbol of his redemption. Logan rejects the sword, claiming that

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he's unworthy. And Marco says that don't worry, you are a man

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of honor in my eyes. And this rekindles their relationship to

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the point where Wolverine proposes, she says yes, and it

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turns into a full wedding event where all the X Men come to

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arrive to celebrate Wolverine and getting married to Margo,

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the end of his temping career. Yep, but don't worry, that's not

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the end of this particular story. Oh, because during the

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wedding, unfortunately, it gets cut short by the silver samurai

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who makes an appearance. Silver Samurai is teamed up with his

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master Viper, and it's revealed that silver Samurai is actually

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Marco's half brother, Harada. Okay, okay, okay, I'm following.

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They battle, uh, Marco and Yukio actually decide to team up this

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go around. So Yukio pretends to be Marco when she when Marco

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gets captured, um, and they all fight. Basically, it ends with.

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If, like, this massive explosion almost kills everyone. The X Men

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survive, Logan decides to continue on with the wedding.

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But something is said to Mariko, where she decides she does not

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want to marry Logan anymore and tells him that he needs to go

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home, because from what he saw, what she saw from Him, He will

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always just be a Berserker. And it the whole comic ends with

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just like Logan decided to return back of the X Men, and

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you just see a single tier running down his face. Well,

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back to simpin. It was like, What's gene doing today? But,

ComicChams:

yeah, that is basically the story there. Um, it definitely

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it differs, as I mentioned so much, from the movie, because

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they tried to tie in more so of just like how Wolverine tries to

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navigate the world as being such an animalistic person, while

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also trying to recognize that he is a man still, um, it does

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create more of a I could see what they were trying to adapt

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into the movie. Not everything came across clearly, because

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this is like some things you can and can do a lot of stuff that

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they had in this you can't really do just because I'm

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guessing, things that are acceptable and seeing on

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American productions. But maybe this was done differently,

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because this story was also adapted in 2011 when Marvel

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decided they were going to, like, dive into a bunch of anime

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productions. So this was also created in the anime form, in

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like a 12 episode mini series, I think, where Wolverine also

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takes another trip to Japan and goes through this entire story.

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I have not watched this. I am open to watching this as like a

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supplemental piece for this episode, though. So if y'all

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interested, yes, with there is a we have toyed around with doing

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a series of comparisons. For example, comparing the crisis we

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went through. Let me specifically the DC crisis, not

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one of the many crisises in life we've gone through, to the error

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verse crisis. So if you guys are interested in that sort of thing

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of comparing two adaptations of something and seeing who wins,

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let us know. Just don't make me do Red Hood Teen Titans from

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from Titans the show, because i My heart won't, will give out

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your crisis we had. So I don't know I'm feeling particular

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comic I think is a cool comic for Wolverine fans, because it

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really does create a story for where we're getting a chance to

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see how Wolverine navigates the world as a man, and how he

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struggles with going back and forth. And I think it ends up

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being a story that a lot of creators later on would try to

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incorporate into how they write out Wolverine story, especially

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with the introduction of characters like x 23 badger.

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Pink Dragon is also his son. So it's like all those particular

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character introductions stem a little bit from like, how did

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Wolverine become navigate this, like, dark moment in his life

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when he was trying to do the right thing. And with that,

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we're gonna wrap up our episode here today join us next time for

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our next big stop on the Ryan and Hugh road trip as we head

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back to our DC roots with one of the movies from the DC universe

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that is known worldwide as probably one of the worst

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creative films in all of history. And I that I mean the

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live action 2011 Green Lantern movie, yes, but is it? Does it

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deserve another look? Can he from willpower make a cap or a

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cape we'll see in the meantime, be sure to support us, either

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remember, if someone offers you a sword because you saved your

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life, probably don't take the sword. I mean, if if you want a

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free trip to Japan, that's fine, but just know that everybody and

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their mama and the Yakuza and that random old friend that you

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made are all going to come and try to kill you, and if you find

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out that your new boyfriend hookup had casually killed

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somebody in the past. Please ask one follow up question, just one

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Cape or Cap: A Black Nerd Superhero Podcast
Fun deep dives and honest takes on superhero productions from two Black Nerds breaking down what’s worth your time ('cape') and what you can skip ('cap')
Cape or Cap: A Black Nerd Superhero Podcast is the perfect place for dissecting superhero shows, movies, and their source material comics from a Black nerd's perspective.

Join Chamar "ComicChams" Griffith and Andrew "Arete" Tejada as they delve into the stories, behind-the-scenes work, and comic origins of these productions. They provide a final review to let you know which ones are worth a watch and have earned their 'cape', and which ones have crash-landed and earned a 'cap'. Expect reviews, lightning rounds, and plenty of nerdy banter in every episode. Available wherever you get your podcasts.
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Chamar Griffith

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A Blerd from birth, Chamar is just a kid from Brooklyn who has always loved epic tales, art, and animation. Given that superheroes and cartoons have all three, he dived into this colorful world.

Andrew Tejada

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